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Do you consider Radiohead mainstream?

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  1. 1. Do you consider Radiohead mainstream?



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i usually see this kind of stuff started by people who are intent on labeling radiohead as something other than mainstream for the sake of feeling culturally special.

 

yeah and i usually see people, only really here and on specialist music forums, insist they are because they're trying to make out they're not special. and then i'll walk out my door into the world and they're very much not unavoidably a part of modern culture. i wish they were.

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you clearly don't know what mainstream means.

 

christ shut up, i set out my idea of 'mainstream' very clearly at the start of this thread. you think it's a meaningless term, i don't, if the term was as universally understandable as you seem to think this thread wouldn't exist.

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so if radiohead aren't mainstream why do they write songs that use tradiational pop instruments, have pop structure, music videos, do interviews, sing about accessable subjects, relate to the public, converse with the public, play VEEJAYD gigs, visualize songs, don't compose xenharmonically, play recognisable tempos, use tried and tested methods, play in Cminor everyothersong, have long songs/angst songs/ common time, and popular chord progressions, easily recognisable intervals.

 

Fog for example uses the mainstream to it's advantage. Fog is built upon incredibly prediactable chord changes, and the whole hook of the song is when he ups to G instead of going down to G near the end of the song. Right, simple, but effective, for a reason.

 

They make mainstream music, because they enjoy and have enjoyed, mainstream music. I do exactly the same thing.

 

 

 

Right, the most important point.

 

Radiohead's music is built of a shitload of mainstream music. And it shows. Radiohead's music, in my mind, gets you interested, they have hooks, that line you in, and you can't help but listen, and it grows.

That's so incredibly difficult to do, but it is incredibly mainstream.

 

 

It's been going on for decades.

 

 

 

music, written to be popular with the masses, is mainstream, fact.

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Am I going off on one? Fuck off.

 

 

 

All you've done is talk down to me since you got in the thread, you're the worst person to argue music about because while I'm talking theory and fact, you're talking feelings. And whioleI think feelings are the best bit about music, I don't think it has any place in this thread.

 

 

 

You see, when you're an absolute tool like when I was trying to talk to you in a cival manner during the whole racism mt thing, it's me being childish. But when I make one little post you dislike, it's you doing justice.

 

Yeah I probably am going off on one actually, because you're just like, I dunno, I just can't relate to you at all. I could never get on with you.

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There's so much bickering in this thread because everybody has a different idea of what "mainstream" is.

 

I don't think they're mainstream because nobody I know has ever heard of them. Well, I know one person who's heard of them, but she only knows about Creep, so that doesn't count.

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There's so much bickering in this thread because everybody has a different idea of what "mainstream" is.

 

I don't think they're mainstream because nobody I know has ever heard of them. Well, I know one person who's heard of them, but she only knows about Creep, so that doesn't count.

 

EXACTLY!!!!

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music, written to be popular with the masses, is mainstream, fact.

 

we have perfectly reasonable language to put across all what you've said, ideas of art and writing pop music and being popular, whatever, without calling on this concept of being 'mainstream' that has been discussed for many years in a whole load of stuff they made me read at uni as something more narrow and distinct, that is obviously controversial for a lot of people. i don't see the point in your definition really. and this is about definitions more than it's about Radiohead. i have an idea of mainstream that is very much about the narrow stream, it's a definition i find to be distinct and useful, and i'll defend it over any kind of 'another way of saying popular' idea.

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well, no.

 

If I started describing words based on my friends RAPE means I just got a killing spree in halo 2.

 

 

it's mainstream because it's made accessable for and to the masses. You have no argument.

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I mean they're not part of modern culture?

 

 

You're high.

 

chill out and just follow what i've actually said. it's hard not to talk down to you when i try really hard to be clear and then you come out with this stuff, and aren't you just being really rude and patronising yourself? i mean i disagree with people but i wasn't being a dick about it.

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Nobody in my damn city has even heard of them.

 

that's because you're from canadia.

 

also, I agree with the argument that there is a huge difference between radiohead, as a presence, being mainstream, and their MUSIC being mainstream. I would have to say that the music itself is clearly not mainstream; ask a diverse group of friends to come over for a drink and put on kid a and watch their reaction.

 

i think mainstream music is defined by a universally accessible sound and I would contend that radiohead is not classified by this. The argument that they use mainstream instruments and are therefore mainstream is absurd.

 

That's like saying a writer who writes his/her work on a laptop is automatically mainstream even if he/she is writing about the most obscure, abstract topics ever. In addition, do you consider an ondes martinot to be a mainstream instrument?

 

I think that this is a great topic because it exposes not only what we all consider to be mainstream, but our individual views on the band and its image. Does a band's exposure make them mainstream, or does its music arrangements and lyrics make it mainstream?

 

I believe that Radiohead are mainstream due to their exposure, but not as a result of their music.

 

Also, how the hell do I make it so that when I quote someone, it says the person who originally said it? Or do I have to type that in myself?

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'mainstream' is the shit they play on the olympics on nbc which they bill as being the "soundtrack to the games". you know, horrible, melody-less garbage. it's not radiohead. they're a big band as far as it goes, there aren't many bigger, but i don't think that makes them 'mainstream'

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yeah when you tell me the shut up which you've done before, a few times I think, I always think

 

 

'man, I really appreciate that Penny is trying to be a nice guy to me'

 

 

but whatever man, they're totally underground, cuz your friends don't know em

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You have no argument.

 

dictionary definition of mainstream:

 

–noun 1. the principal or dominant course, tendency, or trend: the mainstream of American culture.

2. a river having tributaries.

 

–adjective 3. belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.: mainstream Republicans; a mainstream artist.

4. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of jazz falling historically between Dixieland and modern jazz; specifically, swing music. Compare traditional (def. 4).

 

–verb (used with object) 5. to send into the mainstream; cause to join the main force, group, etc.: to mainstream young people into the labor force.

6. to place (handicapped students) in regular school classes.

 

–verb (used without object) 7. to join or be placed in the mainstream.

 

bolded is what i'm talking about and how i understood the term, and is what i think is the most useful way we can talk about the mainstream. do Radiohead represent the principal course and tendency of modern culture? i don't believe so.

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Mainstream means representing the thoughts of the majority. Radiohead is ahead of the curve, they certainly are left of center in their politics, ecology. They are cutting edge. Well-known or popular is not the same thing as mainstream.

 

To call Radiohead mainstream is an insult.

 

sorry but.. lol

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edit/right well I'm just gunna stop man because, I really don't like you at all, and it's effecting my argument, so this isn't going to go anywhere good and we probably won't make any decent convo.

 

 

and I'm blaming me here, rather than you btw

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