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I think we're going to have more people from other countries than italians on that date. The gig location is so beautiful.

 

It really looks beautiful on the pictures. Have you been there before? :)

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It really looks beautiful on the pictures. Have you been there before? :)

My girlfriend and myself are going to Villa Manin too.. we are expecting on of the best days of our life.. we are travelling from far away (Hungary), so we really hope that it won't get cancelled (seeing that it is an outdoor concert makes us nervous and worried about this :icon_roll ).

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Of course they'll have back ups of all the data, etc. A lot of gear/equipment they do have duplicates of as we know. To say that they have separate gear for each country based on it's plugs (as someone did in the other thread) is silly. They use adapters and converters. They don't buy different gear in each country to be used in that country. That would be a monumental waste of money, and ridiculous. It may make a rather amusing bit in a comedy about touring musicians, though.

 

Regarding this horrible loss- I can't speak for anyone, I don't pretend to know them or what they're thinking. I do know this, though. As much as you don't want to and as difficult as it may be, you have to press on. If they keep the gig in Italy, it doesn't mean that they're disrespecting Scott's memory in any way, it means that they're adults and they're keeping their responsibilities, going through the grieving process, picking and and trying to start anew.

It's what you have to do...it's the example you have to set for your children and those around you.

When my fiancé died 2 years ago, I wanted to crawl under a rock and die. Literally. I would go to sleep each night and wish I didn't wake the next morning. But I did. I'm here, 2 years later. Things are okay, I've found a news semblance of existence....and that's just how it is.

Yes, it's horrible horrible horrible that this has happened, but the implication that they have to cancel the tour because of it says that when bad things happen you should give up and let them beat you.

I'm sure that, when they're ready, they'll get together to figure out if the right time for them to perform is Italy in 2 weeks time....or Zimbabwe in 15 years. Regardless, it can't be forced, it can't be rushed, and it most certainly cannot be decided by anyone but those DIRECTLY involved.

 

 

~stine

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Of course they'll have back ups of all the data, etc. A lot of gear/equipment they do have duplicates of as we know. To say that they have separate gear for each country based on it's plugs (as someone did in the other thread) is silly. They use adapters and converters. They don't buy different gear in each country to be used in that country. That would be a monumental waste of money, and ridiculous. It may make a rather amusing bit in a comedy about touring musicians, though.

 

Regarding this horrible loss- I can't speak for anyone, I don't pretend to know them or what they're thinking. I do know this, though. As much as you don't want to and as difficult as it may be, you have to press on. If they keep the gig in Italy, it doesn't mean that they're disrespecting Scott's memory in any way, it means that they're adults and they're keeping their responsibilities, going through the grieving process, picking and and trying to start anew.

It's what you have to do...it's the example you have to set for your children and those around you.

When my fiancé died 2 years ago, I wanted to crawl under a rock and die. Literally. I would go to sleep each night and wish I didn't wake the next morning. But I did. I'm here, 2 years later. Things are okay, I've found a news semblance of existence....and that's just how it is.

Yes, it's horrible horrible horrible that this has happened, but the implication that they have to cancel the tour because of it says that when bad things happen you should give up and let them beat you.

I'm sure that, when they're ready, they'll get together to figure out if the right time for them to perform is Italy in 2 weeks time....or Zimbabwe in 15 years. Regardless, it can't be forced, it can't be rushed, and it most certainly cannot be decided by anyone but those DIRECTLY involved.

 

 

~stine

@norabarnacle

I agree with everything that you've said!

I think cancelling the tour would send a wrong message..

We just have to wait and see how they decide.. whatever their decision is, I'm sure they'll do what they feel is the right thing to do.

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To say that they have separate gear for each country based on it's plugs (as someone did in the other thread) is silly.

 

Yes it is silly. But there are numerous reports that they copied their gear for North American shows. You say it would be expensive "monumental waste of money" however the logistics of having one set of gear and shipping it around the world be it by plane or ocean not only would work its way up to an astounding amount of money in itself but would be just as silly if a group of peoples soul income was playing music and had no sort of back up in place should their equipment be lost, broken, stolen, held up in customs, lost at sea, burned in a car crash and so on. The gear in Toronto is not their only set of gear.

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I realize that they have duplicates/spares/backups of a lot of gear. I said that if you read my prior post. I actually said the exact same thing that you did....that the gear in Toronto wasn't the only gear and that the data was backed up....sorry if that wasn't clear?

I said it would be a monumental waste of money for them to have separate gear for every single country, which they don't, because no one would do that. It would be beyond stupid. I work with musicians every day and I know, no one would do that. Ever. Even the really odd ones. :)

 

~stine

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I realize that they have duplicates/spares/backups of a lot of gear. I said that if you read my prior post. I actually said the exact same thing that you did....that the gear in Toronto wasn't the only gear and that the data was backed up....sorry if that wasn't clear?

I said it would be a monumental waste of money for them to have separate gear for every single country, which they don't, because no one would do that. It would be beyond stupid. I work with musicians every day and I know, no one would do that. Ever. Even the really odd ones. :o)

 

~stine

@norabarnacle

 

none of their synths, guitars, pedal boards are duplicates from what i have seen.

they are the same ones from show to show, regardless of continent. sound equipment, pa's, leads, lights.... those are probably duplicates, which honestly are the things that would take up the most room to ship around. anyway, the semantics aside, they have the funds to replaces even the most rare things they play with. christ, were talking about a guy who went to a synth manufacturer with an idea and poof! they made the french connection in bulk. also, they play very nice things, which should be an indicator to their willingness to purchase high end equipment. vintage teles's, jazzmasters', starcasters... all things easy to come by for a group of people who make 30k a show on t-shirts. :) dont worry about replacements or gear. worry about state of mind. same goes for attitude. it stinks that it had to happen to some of the most interesting artists around, who also all seem to be such great, caring humans.

anyway, just my little bit about that.

 

also, a total sidenote.... if you are interested in guitars and gear in general, this is a place where i have bought a few things. nice "eyecandy" to take your mind off of their current issues. lets all keep our heads up. :)

http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/

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I said it would be a monumental waste of money for them to have separate gear for every single country, which they don't, because no one would do that. It would be beyond stupid.

 

Sorry for missing your previous post, I started skimming when a lot of the conversation was repeating the Toronto show thread. I'm just recalling an article I read that they had duplicated their tour gear to leave in storage in North America. Would it cost a lot of money? Yes. Separate gear for each country? Doubt it. But I believe that their carbon footprint was heavy on their minds at the time and although it would be possibly financially ridiculous, ecologically maybe not. I'll see if I can find the article. I found one talking about slow boating their gear over seas, which if they did to get it back to Europe would talk longer than two weeks I believe.

Any how I think I started talking about this to assuage the fears of those who are waiting to see them play.

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The band is considering to stop the tour after the death of a roadie of the stage in Toronto, following the collapse of the stage. The Italian management team: "The band is considering what to do. Until further notice, all confirmed".

 

The Radiohead concert, scheduled for 1 July, could slip to September due to the collapse of the stage last Saturday in Toronto, has caused the death of Scott Johnson.

 

" that type of loss is equivalent to a rock band to the disappearance of a band member, and there would be no wonder if this happened, "adds Leonardo Giacomelli Le Nozze di Figaro, which organizes the big concert at Cascine" but for us also, "as for today, the concert is confirmed". "For now, therefore, it is only a hypothesis: in the coming hours we will know something more.

 

 

info from atease (translated from an italian article)

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Aww, that's so awful. It's all so awful. As I said before, they'll start up again when they feel it's right for them-be that in two weeks or a longer period of time.

Peace to all involved. :(

 

~stine

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info from atease (translated from an italian article)

 

What about other shows in Italy/Europe?

 

Ahh I'll just wait until we get an official word about it. :)

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(translated from an italian article)

 

Yeah kind of the best way to let you know they have no sources for this. Yesterday I read an article in Italian which roughly titled "tour confirmed for Radiohead"

I went on and read, the only line saying something about it was: "RH did not say anything about the tour so it's probably confirmed"

 

God, shut up.

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It really looks beautiful on the pictures. Have you been there before? :)

 

No, but I have some friends who have and they say it's stunning, Not difficult to believe, seems great.

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The sooner the situation clarifies, the better.

Personally, I'd be obviously upset if they decided to cancel the tour, but it would be perfectly understandable. If they need some time to recover and regain balance, no fan would blame them for that.

 

Then again, there's this part of me that likes to believe that Radiohead themselves, as mature people and artists, can and will cope with it. I think this unexpected and painful experience will make them even stronger and despite the giref, shock and fear they'll be determined to go on at some point. So while the immediate concerts are still up in the air, I don't believe it when people claim they might not tour ever again. With their maturity, both as artists and as human beings, they're capable of facing the demons and dealing with the emotions through the music - isn't it the essence of the way it affects our lives anyway?

 

Perhaps I'm too optimistic about it, but I believe in their strength and wisdom.

Btw. regarding all those 'what if' scenarios. If it happened during OKC days, I don't think we'd have Kid A. Or anything after.

 

Time will tell whether they can take it just now. I suppose the state of the rest of the crew is one of the deciding factors. I really hope the injured are ok and recovering, fortunately no news is good news.

On the other hand, there's this purely professional side to it all - contracts made, everyone involved having families to support and so on.

 

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Hello everyone,

 

As you will probably have heard the roof over the stage collapsed at our show in Toronto killing crew member Scott Johnson and injuring three other crew members. The collapse also destroyed the light show – this show was unique and will take many weeks to replace. The collapse also caused serious damage to our backline, some elements of which are decades old and therefore hard to replace.

 

Whilst we all are dealing with the grief and shock ensuing from this terrible accident there are also many practical considerations to deal with & consequently we have to try and reschedule the following shows:

 

June

30 Roma Hippodrome Capanelle

 

July

1 Firenze Parco delle Cascine

3 Bologna Arena Parco Nord

4 Codroipo Villa Manin

6 Berlin Wulheide

7 Berlin Wulhedie

9 St Triphon Carriere des Andonces

 

We aim to announce the new dates for these shows on Wednesday 27th of June and will also supply information on how to obtain refunds on tickets if you cannot come to the show on the new date.

 

We will start playing live again at Les Arenes Nimes, Bilbao BBK festival and Lisbon Optimus Alive festival.

 

We will make every effort to offer the fans the very best show possible under the circumstances – thanks for your understanding and support.

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Hello everyone,

 

As you will probably have heard the roof over the stage collapsed at our show in Toronto killing crew member Scott Johnson and injuring three other crew members. The collapse also destroyed the light show – this show was unique and will take many weeks to replace. The collapse also caused serious damage to our backline, some elements of which are decades old and therefore hard to replace.

 

Whilst we all are dealing with the grief and shock ensuing from this terrible accident there are also many practical considerations to deal with & consequently we have to try and reschedule the following shows:

 

June

30 Roma Hippodrome Capanelle

 

July

1 Firenze Parco delle Cascine

3 Bologna Arena Parco Nord

4 Codroipo Villa Manin

6 Berlin Wulheide

7 Berlin Wulhedie

9 St Triphon Carriere des Andonces

 

We aim to announce the new dates for these shows on Wednesday 27th of June and will also supply information on how to obtain refunds on tickets if you cannot come to the show on the new date.

 

We will start playing live again at Les Arenes Nimes, Bilbao BBK festival and Lisbon Optimus Alive festival.

 

We will make every effort to offer the fans the very best show possible under the circumstances – thanks for your understanding and support.

Yes I read this as well on their website. I am not surprised. I know some of you will have to rearrange your plans, but at least they plan on rescheduling these shows. So sounds like the lighting setup is what will put this next leg of the tour a bit off. I think it isn't unreasonable to understand their decision.

 

Someone made a comment about them using the IR lighting setup, thank god this had not happened during that tour! Those lights were like endlessly long spears that would've impaled the other whom were injured. It actually had crossed my mind as well they might do this, or even something similar to what they used in September at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC.

 

As for the equipment/instruments, I would wonder if Jonny has a duplicate of the Ondes or even the Moog they use sometimes. Although I'm not sure if that has been out on tour with them thus far.

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Yes I read this as well on their website. I am not surprised. I know some of you will have to rearrange your plans, but at least they plan on rescheduling these shows. So sounds like the lighting setup is what will put this next leg of the tour a bit off. I think it isn't unreasonable to understand their decision.

 

Someone made a comment about them using the IR lighting setup, thank god this had not happened during that tour! Those lights were like endlessly long spears that would've impaled the other whom were injured. It actually had crossed my mind as well they might do this, or even something similar to what they used in September at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC.

 

As for the equipment/instruments, I would wonder if Jonny has a duplicate of the Ondes or even the Moog they use sometimes. Although I'm not sure if that has been out on tour with them thus far.

Yeah, I think that we had this coming. Not surprising news, actually I'm glad they are rescheduling and NOT cancelling.

About the instruments.. I'm more worried about Jonny's guitars (especially the extremely rare starcaster), and their amps and pedals. I guess they can play shows without them, but obviously if they get new ones they will sound different. The other equipment (even the "ondes", which isn't actually a "real" ondes) is replaceable, I guess.

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About the instruments.. I'm more worried about Jonny's guitars (especially the extremely rare starcaster), and their amps and pedals. I guess they can play shows without them, but obviously if they get new ones they will sound different. The other equipment (even the "ondes", which isn't actually a "real" ondes) is replaceable, I guess.

 

so I take it all their instruments were destroyed?

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