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  1. Bought the CD. I was apprehensive about this but CD2 is worth the investment. It's not just the three new songs, several of the B Sides are beautiful, slow burners. Track 4 is a stunner. As is the last track which feels like True Love Waits off AMSP. For me the litmus test was whether the second CD stood up almost like a proper album, and it nearly does, so that's a tick for me. The price wasn't worth it if it was just for three tracks, and of course I've already got OKC, so for me it was all about the overall strength of the 11 tracks on CD2 and overall I think the 11 tracks sit nicely together.
  2. OK I have listened to about 8-9 of the tracks. Some I have as B Sides on CD Singles bought years ago, and others I looked up on Youtube. I am not overly excited about this (CD2). I think there's a handful of so so nice tracks, but they are characterised as having nice hooks initially but then the track just doesn't sustain the promise all the way through, and I think this is why they never ended up on any of their albums, quite simply because they aren't good enough. So I cannot see this CD2 being as good as a genuine album. Which is fine, I mean it is what it is. If it was going to be stellar then it would be released as a stand alone album. I do think it is ironic the last track is How I Made My Millions. A cynic would tell you all that the band are basically ripping you all off, getting you to buy OKC and a bunch of B Sides you already have all over again (actually some of you shelling out over $100). The only addition is 3 tracks which to be frank are OK (ah, more irony) but not stellar. I'm sure 99.999% of you will disagree with me, and that's fine, you're all die hard RH fans so God bless you all. I love them too, I really do, I have IR and AMSP box sets, and have Spectre vinyl x3 copies, but for me this is all about the CD2 and I just don't think it will be album worthy. Hopefully I am wrong and the remastered versions are actually a lot better and different to the versions I have heard. It is possible I suppose. But unlikely. I look fwd to reviews when it comes out as that will largely determine if I buy it on CD. I already have OK and a number of the B Sides on CD so paying for the ne release is TBC for me. Peace ya'll.
  3. OK I have listened to about 8-9 of the tracks. Some I have as B Sides on CD Singles bought years ago, and others I looked up on Youtube. I am not overly excited about this (CD2). I think there's a handful of so so nice tracks, but they are characterised as having nice hooks initially but then the track just doesn't sustain the promise all the way through, and I think this is why they never ended up on any of their albums, quite simply because they aren't good enough. So I cannot see this CD2 being as good as a genuine album. Which is fine, I mean it is what it is. If it was going to be stellar then it would be released as a stand alone album. I do think it is ironic the last track is How I Made My Millions. A cynic would tell you all that the band are basically ripping you all off, getting you to buy OKC and a bunch of B Sides you already have all over again (actually some of you shelling out over $100). The only addition is 3 tracks which to be frank are OK (ah, more irony) but not stellar. I'm sure 99.999% of you will disagree with me, and that's fine, you're all die hard RH fans so God bless you all. I love them too, I really do, I have IR and AMSP box sets, and have Spectre vinyl x3 copies, but for me this is all about the CD2 and I just don't think it will be album worthy. Hopefully I am wrong and the remastered versions are actually a lot better and different to the versions I have heard. It is possible I suppose. But unlikely. I look fwd to reviews when it comes out as that will largely determine if I buy it on CD. I already have OK and a number of the B Sides on CD so paying for the ne release is TBC for me. Peace ya'll.
  4. I don't think you are comprehending my posts friend. I am asking how good are the tracks?
  5. I'm not even talking about cohesion, though I firmly acknowledge that is important in an album, very important actually, but I digress... I a more talking about whether the tracks are on the whole high quality enough to typically warrant being on a genuine RH album per se. Does anyone here know most if not all of these CD2 songs? If so, how good are they, as a whole? If say there's 10 tracks and you guys think 8+ of them are kick arse tracks that - order/cohesion, era etc aside - deserve to be on a genuine RH album, then I'd say that view endorses CD2 as being something truly getting excited about. But if it is felt only about half to 60%, or even less than half of the tracks are any good, then I will temper my expectation to that of expecting this to be a assortment of mostly not worthy RH tracks, which is fine, I mean it is what it is.
  6. I'm still trying to get my head around this. Apologies I don't know their back catalogue of unreleased music as well as some others here. With this in mind what's the general feeling about this, focusing more on the new tracks - do we think CD2 will be like a new album, in terms of song quality (content)? Should we get truly excited about it, as if it was AMSP coming out all over again? Or do we think some of the tracks will be mediocre and / or it's maybe disappointing many of the tracks are original recordings which might be a tad rough and lacking polish (and it might have been better if they were mostly new recordings)?
  7. No, not all. I won't buy it if I don't see the value in it. Get it
  8. So these aren't new versions? Um, the originals aren't that good, so don't think this will be worth it. If they re-did them, they could make the songs a lot better.
  9. OK so in the box set there is a lot of B-Sides which is nice BUT are they any good? Is it going to be worth shelling out over A$200? I have a few of these B Sides on some CD Singles I bought over the years. From memory one or two of them are very good but I am not convinced this list of B Sides is worth the money. I have OKC already, don;'t need it again. I am starting to think RH are shrewd business men who are ripping their fans off, sorry to say it folks. I just don't think the B Sides CD will be anywhere near as good as IR2 was.
  10. OK so in the box set there is a lot of B-Sides which is nice BUT are they any good? Is it going to be worth shelling out over A$200? I have a few of these B Sides on some CD Singles I bought over the years. From memory one or two of them are very good but I am not convinced this list of B Sides is worth the money. I have OKC already, don;'t need it again. I am starting to think RH are shrewd business men who are ripping their fans off, sorry to say it folks.
  11. I recently revisited AMSP, after not playing it for quite some time, and I have two observations to make ... 1. It is definitely one of their best albums (personally it might go down as my favourite RH album), which IMO is due to the band having matured in recent times (I thought the second half of TKOLs was some of their best work and AMSP is really a continuation of that creative evolution) 2. Incredibly, the two songs that initially I didn't like the most on AMSP, the ones that (I believe) are the only 2 new songs written for the album - Desert Island Disk and The Numbers - I now think are the two best tracks on the album, perhaps alongside Present Tense which I feel is the biggest and most intricate track on the album (the way the song comes back to the chorus 'You are lost' is very cleverly done, like a great comedian who's jokes come full circle in a live show). Listening to Desert Island Disk and The Numbers now, I think they are exceptionally beautiful tracks, both slow burners, almost Hitchcockian in the way they build dramatic momentum. I think when I first heard these two songs, they didn't appeal to me much because they seemed a bit too slow, to the point of being dull and certainly not striking in an instant gratification way, but in time I have realised that this is what makes them such great tracks - they're tracks that take their time getting to the sweet spot, and where the actual journey itself is just as good as the destination. If anything I think it is a massive shame that the band didn't write more new songs for the album, and instead re-hashed old tracks. I can only imagine how good a whole album written (and importantly recorded) in the manner of AMSPs Desert Island Disk and The Numbers would be like. Again in priasing and talking about these two songs, I keep coming back to this creative maturity I talk about that IMO had its genesis on TKOLs - in fact arguably it started before that on HTTT, with tracks like Scatterbrain. In my view, tracks like Scatterbrain, Codex, Give Up The Ghost, Separator, Desert Island Disk and The Numbers, are all based on a more patient approach to song writing , where the songs are given plenty of space and time to breath. These tracks evolve in an almost organic manner. I would argue it is a far cry from the early 2000s when the band felt a need to try and be different, as IMO even the slow electronic tracks felt rushed in a conceptual way - like a rush to impress. I know a lot of people here love their electronic forays and so I certainly don't want to be dissing that (indeed, I loved the first 2 tracks off Kid A, and appreciated Hunting Bears and Like Spinning Plates), but personally I much prefer the new Radiohead, the one that seems to me to be maturing like a great bottle of red. Le's hope AMSP isn't their last album,. and they make a new album one day full of tracks like Desert Island Disk and The Numbers.
  12. Ok I wasn't going to make much comment on this but changed my mind as I have a good idea I think the next album should be like Ill Wind, so in the vein of that track and Dollars and Cents and Scatterbrian etc More relaxed, jazzy, freestyle style With subtle gentle waves of electro like on Ill Wind A semi jazz album Surely they can do this, means Thom doesn't have to take 5 years and coutless migraines to come up with a dozen catchy choruses
  13. Wow that is scary Time flies my friends Great album, but, don't you agree it seems dare I say it commercial versus AMSP? That's the progression I recall Ty once saying he can't listen to The Bends bec he thinks the blatant commercial hooks are cringeworthy They've matured and it's a good thing
  14. I don't think I can do this Bec I think this is a special album whe even the smaller, less grand tracks are incredibly beautiful in their own right And the album is very mellow, and consistent, and this creates a lets face it these days a n unique situation where the album is stronger than the sum of its parts There are some tracks on this that stand out as they are larger pieces with more going on such as Decks Dark and Prsent Tense and BTW and Identikit Logic says these are the best tracks But then as mentioned earlier some of the more understated tracks, really are quite sublime and they contribute to the greatness of the album as a whole and really are as Impoetant as the more obvious tracks Honestly I don't think I can even try to rank the tracks on this album I think this is their best album to date bec of the consistency and the fact it is an album that as mentioned the sum of its parts etc etc It's a complete , consistent body of work that sits so well, none of the tracks bar maybe Ful Stop , feel like they don't belong I have a friend who is an artist, quite a good one , he has works in the British Museum, and he once said to me a truly great album, is like a painting, it has to sit nicely on the wall. What he means by this is the work has a evenness and consistency that makes it a full , uniform body of work Like the perfect cup of coffee I would argue on AMSP Radiohead achieve this more than they have with any other album in the past They have made some great albums as we all know but ll these albums had tracks that stood out more than others and some tracks that we're maybe a bit weak - even OKC suffered from this ImO To be honest I would say The Bends prior to AMsP was maybe the best albm as all the tracks felt the Same, there was that uniformity that I talk of And maybe In Rainbows too, and a shame the second half of TKOLs had it too as all the tracks were so mellow they sat nicely together so felt like a true consistent meaningful body of work AMSP is just such a mellow, gorgeous album where every track feels like it was cut from the same cloth and thus each track is equally important
  15. You're missing the point Look everyone is different , so I'll give you that There will be people who say the Cd is worth X and the vinyl is worth Y and the box is worth Z etc and add them up to get a total and then see if that equates to what they paid for the whole package But my pint is not everyone sees it that way There's an intangible value on a collectors item It's like art, say a painting, you'll never sell it because it's beauty is in the eye of you the possessor, beholder. Or person A will pay much much more for it than person Y bec of the beauty in it OR bec they know it's a collectors item and so it's worth paying extra just for the fact it's a collectors item Collectors boxes by definition behold an added value element , so even if the sum of the parts don't technically equate to the value you paid for it in dollars or pounds etc , it doesn't matter because there is an invisible value to a collectors item Does that Make sense?
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